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    2 G614s

    Hi

    We failed 2 G614s this trip fortunately not much damage to trailer. They had about 60,000 miles on them and were 7 years old.

    I have just replaced all tires including the spare with the Firestone TransForce HT.

    We will see how these hold up we have been having good luck with them on the TV.

    Phil P

    Phil P
    2009 Montana 3665RE
    2009 Silverado Durtamax DW Quad Cab Long bed
    as of 10/20/2016 have 90,000 miles on the Montana and 172,000 on the Silverado

    #2
    I am glad to hear there wasn't much damage. I have the concern of losing a tire in the back of my brain... luckily I have not had an issue yet. So not long on the Firestones?
    Fifth Wheel: 2015 Montana 3750FL Tow Vehicle: 2013 Ford F350 6.7L Lariat, Crew Cab. Eric and Tina

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      #3
      Hi

      I have been running the Firestone TransForce HT on the TV for 160,000 miles without a single failure. Now going for 220,000.

      Phil P
      Phil P
      2009 Montana 3665RE
      2009 Silverado Durtamax DW Quad Cab Long bed
      as of 10/20/2016 have 90,000 miles on the Montana and 172,000 on the Silverado

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        #4
        Thats impressive! I have been using BF Goodrich All Terrain TA/KOs for almost 100,000. Never thought about totals like that, that way. I picked up a bolt once and that ruined a tire. Other than that i have no complaints! I suppose that all we can ask for!
        Fifth Wheel: 2015 Montana 3750FL Tow Vehicle: 2013 Ford F350 6.7L Lariat, Crew Cab. Eric and Tina

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          #5
          Hi

          That is 4th sets of tires and the 3rh set on Firestones LOL

          Sorry didn’t mean to miss lead the TV has 220,000 on it now and if I am still unable to find a replacement TV I will run it to 300,000.

          Phil
          Phil P
          2009 Montana 3665RE
          2009 Silverado Durtamax DW Quad Cab Long bed
          as of 10/20/2016 have 90,000 miles on the Montana and 172,000 on the Silverado

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            #6
            Oh yeah, gotcha!
            Fifth Wheel: 2015 Montana 3750FL Tow Vehicle: 2013 Ford F350 6.7L Lariat, Crew Cab. Eric and Tina

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              #7
              I'm not sure what the issue was on your 60K 7 year old tires? To run a trailer with that many miles and years, an accident was just waiting.

              As for using transforce for the trailer: I didn't think they made a 235/85/16 tire.

              With the weight of these tires I'd stay with a G or F rated tire. That generally means a G614 or a Saliun. I'd keep using the transforce HT for the truck only.

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                #8
                Originally posted by mazboy12 View Post
                I'm not sure what the issue was on your 60K 7 year old tires? To run a trailer with that many miles and years, an accident was just waiting.

                As for using transforce for the trailer: I didn't think they made a 235/85/16 tire.

                With the weight of these tires I'd stay with a G or F rated tire. That generally means a G614 or a Saliun. I'd keep using the transforce HT for the truck only.

                Hi

                I have no “issue” with the g614 except for cost. I have freely admitted that I was trying to get more out of the tire than most would expect.

                As for “accident waiting” a blowout on a trailer will not cause an accident and if I was in a location where I couldn’t get off the road I would have just kept towing it. That may result in wheel damage but no accident.

                I have busted many of the Bandag recaps on Semi’s and never had a directional control problem. I have had blowout on the steering axel at 80,000 lbs "not a recap" and not had a directional control problem. I had a blowout on a Dodge 1500 many years ago when Dodge was still making pickup trucks and was in the fast lane and had to cross 2 lanes of traffic to get to the shoulder without any directional control problems.

                A blowout is not an accident causing situation it becomes one when the driver quits thinking “panic” is a killer regardless of the event.

                Phil P
                Phil P
                2009 Montana 3665RE
                2009 Silverado Durtamax DW Quad Cab Long bed
                as of 10/20/2016 have 90,000 miles on the Montana and 172,000 on the Silverado

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                  #9
                  I’m totally with Phil! I’ve had a few....I just add power and drag her to the tire store. NO BIGGY

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                    #10
                    Hi

                    I wouldn’t go that far but would go the nearest place to safely pull of the road and put the spare on.

                    Phil P
                    Last edited by Phil P; 08-22-2018, 09:00 PM.
                    Phil P
                    2009 Montana 3665RE
                    2009 Silverado Durtamax DW Quad Cab Long bed
                    as of 10/20/2016 have 90,000 miles on the Montana and 172,000 on the Silverado

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Phil P View Post
                      Hi

                      I have been running the Firestone TransForce HT on the TV for 160,000 miles without a single failure. Now going for 220,000.

                      Phil P
                      How's their performance on wet roads? Need to replace my toyo's soon and I'm looking for options. I'm considering bfg and hankook tires also.

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                        #12
                        Hi

                        I also consult on a fleet of light duty trucks and we have converted to this Firestone with no problems reported.

                        Phil P
                        Phil P
                        2009 Montana 3665RE
                        2009 Silverado Durtamax DW Quad Cab Long bed
                        as of 10/20/2016 have 90,000 miles on the Montana and 172,000 on the Silverado

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                          #13
                          I liked my transforce on my truck but I'd never put a none trailer tire on my 5th wheel. Just saying you had 60K miles/ 7 years on your tires shows what happens when one tries to run their tires into the ground.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by mazboy12 View Post
                            I liked my transforce on my truck but I'd never put a none trailer tire on my 5th wheel. Just saying you had 60K miles/ 7 years on your tires shows what happens when one tries to run their tires into the ground.
                            Hi

                            Let’s first explore the facts.

                            Fact #1 the tires lasted the 7 years Goodyear said they were good for.

                            Fact #2 the tires met or exceeded the wear mileage Goodyear said they would do.

                            Fact#3 these tire are not trailer tires they are LT tires just like the ones on our TV.

                            Fact#4 both tires were subject to severe trauma 5 years prior to the event that lead to the replacement of the tires.

                            Fact#5 all of the previous set of G614’s that we removed from the trailer with about 60,000 miles on them are still on an equipment trailer that is used several times a year to move some antique equipment to display shows 3 or 4 time a year that set of ties is just coming up on 10 years old.

                            As I stated in my post I don’t have any complaint about the G614 other than cost.

                            I have used this trailer in y consulting business for 10 years now. I am impressed with the way the house structure is holding up with 110,000 miles of towing.

                            I am also impressed with this 2009 Silverado with 229,000 miles on it and the only problems I have had are normal maintenance and it seems to “eat” batteries I have had to change them every 2 years the last change was yesterday.

                            I have freely admitted that I was pushing the tires to their limit and I am not the least bit upset by the fact that the first tire failed because of the deep cut it had from the 2013 event and the second on was also subject to trauma because it was drug down the road sideways for about 2 miles at the same time.

                            I have had blowouts on 18 wheelers at 80,000 lbs and on light trucks as well. A blowout is not an excuse for having an accident. PANIC kills.

                            Last but not least I am impressed with the durability of the Goodyear G614.

                            Phil P
                            Phil P
                            2009 Montana 3665RE
                            2009 Silverado Durtamax DW Quad Cab Long bed
                            as of 10/20/2016 have 90,000 miles on the Montana and 172,000 on the Silverado

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